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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, his email address is listed at a bank domain. And he does give his full name. So, he may be connected, but I don't see it.

But the point is a good one. We are doing something, and it's not just moanin' and complainin'. We're getting off our butts and demanding our rights, demanding compensation, and providing a public service for those looking at joing the gym.
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Shaking_his_head



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

admin wrote:
Every forum eventually ends up with comments from people like this, so I'm not surprised. You know the type, the ones that believe that by sounding sarcastic and mean they will appear wiser than everyone else, but haven't really thought out their argument, nor presented it in a logical, non-emotional way, so that all you are left with is an emotional rant, by someone with clearly nothing better to do. Well, we welcome all comments here (unless they are outright hateful or slanderous). Gee, do you think maybe this person works for Extreme Fitness???

Let me first state the obvious: This is NOT the Richmond St gym. And I don't live at Queen and John.


I too am in the position of ExtremelyAngry, and once again, EA put forth comments in an elegant, thoughtful, and inclusive way.

I too paid for 15 months, before Extreme took over, and I paid a lot of money for that contract I am in. I have been a member at this location for a number of years, and am very fond of it. I too paid for equipment and services, including the space, much of which is gone, with no word of compensation. I did not pay for a construction site that has gone on now for nearly a year! While I keep getting the promise of this heavenly gym with all my missing equipment and space and services back, clearly my membership will expire long before I see any of what I paid for. So I too, like dozens and dozens of my friends and clients, am left feeling ripped off. Shaking_his_head would have me surrender my money and move on. Extreme Fitness is no charity my friend!

But I thank Shh for agreeing with ever other breathing member of the Danforth Extreme gym that I've spoken with:
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I hate the overcrowding as well and it drives me nuts


Stop being a pushover Shh. Get off your butt and do something!!!!

[As a warning Shh, when you say potentially slanderous things against other companies,
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Goodlife or a premier location, they are a second rate joke
make sure you state that this is your opinion, and be prepared to back that up with personal experience (ie, you are or were a member there). Otherwise you will be banned from this forum. This is NOT a forum for bashing anyone. Thanks. Admin]



There is nothing that I have said about Goodlife or Premier that I cannot back up as I have experienced first hand both places. Please be my guest if you truly want to be part of a gym that does not care about thier members. Keep in mind this is not all locations, there are some with Staff that truly do care about their members but these are few are far between.

I have been around gyms for over 20 years now and let me educate you on one thing. Gyms are around first and foremost to make money. They are a business and need constant influx of money to keep going and thriving. That is the whole reason that Oxygen and Bally's have went under. The stood still, didn't put money back into their gyms and got left behind.

Owning a gym is tough business and I have known a few people who have tried. Those that do truly have to love it as you sure don't get rich quick doing it. Very few except for big companies are successfull nowadays and the good old days of the local gym with a local owner who is at the front desk is gone. I miss those days as well but in todays world it is just not possible.

Another thing you have to understand, gyms don't make money off of people like you and me that go 5-6 days a week as we use water, electricty and add to wear and tear on the equipment. They make money off the guy/girl who buys a membership shows up for a month then stops coming. Your old gym was gone as they did't attract new people because as much as you loved it there wasn't enough to attract them to join compared with what is out there now.

Until things get good, do what I do and try and go at hte off times as much as possible. Its not nearly as bad in the morning as it is at night.
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ExtremelyAngry



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That is the whole reason that Oxygen and Bally's have went under.


I don't know about Bally's but I know about Oxygen and it definitely did not go under. Other forces were at play, some very not nice forces. Ask any of the former Oxygen staffers who will whisper about it.

If Oxygen ''went under,'' why did some of the partners immediately open Pure in Leaside?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, thank you Shh, for a more cogent argument. At least now there is something to reply to. With regards to your comments:
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Please be my guest if you truly want to be part of a gym that does not care about thier members


I DO NOT want to be part of a gym that does not care about their members. That is one of my major beefs with Extreme Fitness: By the way they have treated me, it is very clear that they do not care about their members. From the people who post here and the dozens upon dozens that I have spoken with in person, this is a resoundingly commonplace complaint against Extreme Fitness, Danforth. The corporate line is always, "Everyone else here is happy with what we are doing, it must just be you, sorry I have no more time, good-bye." That is why this forum exists!

When you say,
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I miss those days as well but in todays world it is just not possible.

what you are doing is submitting to negativity, and thereby allowing it to happen. Do you think that if everyone decided not to put up with this way of doing business that they would continue that way for very long? By resonating with that defeated fatalistic view, you are perpetuating it. But that is not my world. And I won't put up with it.


Also, Shh, I don't need "Educating" about gyms, thanks!!! Oxygen did not go under, it does not look like Jump went under by themselves, and Bally's had problems in the States, that trickled down to affect us. They closed locations here in part due to debt restructuring in the US. As I understand it, they were doing fine here.

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Very few except for big companies are successfull nowadays and the good old days of the local gym with a local owner who is at the front desk is gone. I miss those days as well but in todays world it is just not possible.


Oxygen was successful. And not just financially, they were successful because they treated their clients well. In this way, we were all succeeding. As far as I see it, the only ones succeeding from the Extreme takeover, are the profiteers. I am sorry to hear that your life has become so jaded, my friend. Those days are still possible. In fact, they still exist, just not at the Extreme Danforth location anymore. Hence, this forum. People are voicing their concerns with the point of bringing this back, even if it means encouraging someone else to buy this gym out, or encouraging change at Extreme at the very least.

Let me "educate" you on something. The sin of our age is greed. I don't mind someone making money, great for them. When they provide a good service for the money they take, that is a world I will live in, and a business I will have relations with. But a business that takes away services, and equipment, without compensation, and will otherwise take anyone's money without offering, in my opinion, fare services for the money, that is not making money, that is being greedy, and ripping people off. There is a big difference there, my friend. Taking membership money from people who never use their membership, because they are not happy at the gym, is a rippoff, in my opinion.

It is greed that is destroying this planet. And that is not acceptable to me. And I won't support that. And yes, there is something we each can do about it. So, please don't give up. Join with our voices, send a letter to Extreme Fitness. Tell them you've had enough of the money making, and you want quality services now, and won't take no for an answer. Together we can make a change. Please don't resign yourself to negativity.

And I thank you for suggesting going during off hours, but honestly, when I can, it's still too busy for my likings. If I can't use the space or equipment when I go, it's too crowded. And that is usually the case these days. And again, adding your voice will help us all.
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extr



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 1:01 am    Post subject: Extremification: Warning:coming to a gym near you Reply with quote

so picture this: tons of equipment, doubles of everything, and good equipment, hammer strength everywhere the eye can see, lots of space, yes, that was not a typo, I said space, and it's rush hour, no matter where I go, there's equipment available,a nd I can always do something, and stay in myroutine for the day. Have I stepped into a time machine and walked into the former Oxygen Fitness? Nope, i'm at another Extreme location, one recently bought out by EF, one that hasn't yet been extremified. Well, I'm not disclosing where because I figure that there are anough fed up members at the Danforth location to completely fill this location, and I don't want everyone to jump ship like I have.

But get this, a guy says to me, have you noticed how crowded this place is getting? He tells me that his equipment is missing ... so he suanters up to management, who promptly give him the Extreme mantra: It's just you, everyone else is happy, we're putting $3 million dollars into this location.... you know the one. So he's fed up, already.

Turns out that Extreme is just starting to dismantle this location. I saw them hauling out equipment by the elevator load. yeah, they're bringing in new equipment, but just like they did at Danforth, they are not replacing what they took, and it's not the same quality. well, Extreme is all about pretty equipment that is garbage, you know, blinging it up is what they're all about. So the new red shiny life fitness breaks down all the time, who cares when it looks so good? Instead of working out, and ew yeck, exercising, you can sit and look at all that pretty broken equipment. Doesn't that make YOU happy!?

Once they Extremify this location, i'll have to join yet another gym. Extreme Fitness can go to h*%%!!!
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ExtremelyAngry



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think they're moving all the equipment to that wondrous mythical place in the brochures and on the website. The one none of us has actually ever seen.

(Hey extr! $10 says you're talking about the former Delisle Club, another great former indie gym getting extremified.)
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gabb88y



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i am looking into getting a lawyer if anyone is interested in joining me great . if not i will get one on my own.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep us posted gabb88y. If it looks good, there are a number of people ready to join you.
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ExtremelyAngry



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Count me in.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Count me in!!!
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Clark Lonergan



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:51 pm    Post subject: Can we not just stop paying and cancel our membership? Reply with quote

Even though we have a commitment - I never signed up for this disaster of a GYM and the level of service is HORRIBLE! We are the customers right?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

By "commitment" do you mean contract? There was nothing about working out in a construction site in my contract!
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